lion Venter DNA Project

Y-Chromosome Test Results & Analysis

Purpose: The goal of the Venter Surname DNA Project is to identify, isolate, and categorize the different genetic lines which comprise our surname. Once that is done, the next step is to determine to which specific lineage each individual belongs. However, in order to determine what genetic lines exist, we must first test Venter surnamed individuals in order to identify the various haplotypes.

Note: To aid in understanding the material on this page, visitors may find it helpful to read A Short Course In Genetic Genealogy, located elsewhere at this site.

Original Hypothesis: Our initial hypothesis was that there were very few, and possibly only one, Venter genetic line (or haplotype). This was based on the fact that, in relation to other European genetic lines, the Venter surname is extremely rare.

Status: Preliminary steps have been taken toward determining the validity of the original hypothesis. However, the test results of the individuals we have analyzed so far, indicate that there are at least four, and possibly more, identifiable and unrelated Venter genetic lines. These results have been grouped and categorized as follows:

Test Results

At FamilyTreeDNA.com project participants choose a test to analyze groups of 12, 25, 37, 67 or 111 markers. The results of those tests are listed below. The marker numbers are located at the bottom of each table. Note that, due to space limitations, the results for markers #68 - #111, if available, have not been included. The following tables show allele values (i.e., the number of repeats) for each "Short Tandem Repeat" (STR) marker tested. Each STR is identified by its DNA Y-chromosome Sequence Number (DYS#), which is listed across the top of the right-hand portion of the table. The STR values for each individual appear below each DYS#, respectively, and one may compare the tested values between individuals by reading down the column below each DYS#. The assumed modal haplotype for each identified group is shown in the first row of its group. Values differing from the group modal value are highlighted in yellow.

Table 1 - Groups 1, 2, 3 & 5:

 
Line
No.
SurnameID Earliest
Documented
Ancestor
Haplogroup
SNP
which
Defines the
Haplogroup‡


Family Tree DNA Test Group   ==>
Group #1
1-1Venter202167 J1J-M267
Group #2
2-1Venter109845 R1b1a2a1a1c2R-L164
2-2Venter74467 R1b1a2R-M269
2-3Hokanson94923 R1b1a2a1a1c2R-L164
2-4Brown406300 R1b1a2R-M269
2-5Briggs368552 
2-6Peterson114796 R1b1a2R-M269
2-7Warman289913 R1b1a2a1aR-P311
Group #3
3-1Venter31552 Johann AdamR1b1a2a1a2b2R-Z36
3-2Venter508943 Johann AdamR1b1a2a1a2b2R-Z36
3-3Venter43528  R1b1a2R-M269
3-4Fenter107281 Johann PeterR1b1a2R-M269
Group #5
5-1Venter223841 R1b1a2R-M269
5-2Venter219823 R1b1a2R-M269
5-3Venters98133 R1b1a2R-M269
5-4Vandeventer308210 R1b1a2R-M269
5-5van DeventerN32142 R1b1a2R-M269
5-6Private219319  Private
5-7Venter81208  N-M231
5-8Vengertsev341993 R1b1a2R-269
Family Tree DNA Marker Number   ==>
DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#) DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#)
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
|
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
|
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
4
e
4
6
4
f
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
 
H
4
Y
C
A
 
I
I
a
Y
C
A
 
I
I
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
5
3
1
5
7
8
3
9
5
S
1
a
3
9
5
S
1
b
5
9
0
5
3
7
6
4
1
4
7
2
4
0
6
S
1
5
1
1
4
2
5
4
1
3
a
4
1
3
b
5
5
7
5
9
4
4
3
6
4
9
0
5
3
4
4
5
0
4
4
4
4
8
1
5
2
0
4
4
6
6
1
7
5
6
8
4
8
7
5
7
2
6
4
0
4
9
2
5
6
5
Y-DNA12 Y-DNA13 - 25 *Note Y-DNA26 - 37 Y-DNA38 - 47 Y-DNA48 - 60 Y-DNA60 - 67
Categorized as EASTERN EUROPEAN Haplotype.
122314101019111612141231 128911102614192913161616 101119221514171732371210 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
Categorized as ENGLISH Haplotype.
132314101114121212131329 1791011112515193015151717 111119231515181737381212 12915169101081010 1223231610121216812222013 12111311111312
132314101114121212131329 1791011112515193015151717 Markers 26 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132314101114121212131329 1791011112515192715151617 111119231515191737381212 12915168101081010 1223231610121215812222013 12111311111312
132314101114121212131329 1791011112615193015151717 111119231515191637391212 11915168101081010 1223231610121216813222013 12111311111312
132314101114121211131329 1791011112415193015151717 111119231515171737381212 11915168101081010 1223231610121216812222013 12111311111312
132314101114121213121328 1691011112515193015151717 111119231515181736381212 11915168101081010 1222231610121215812222012 12111311111312
132414101114121212131329 1791011112515193015151517 111119231515181737381212 11915158101081010 1223231610121215812232012 12111311111312
Categorized as GERMAN Haplotype.
132414111114121211141330 1691011112514192915151718 111119231516181736371212 11915168101081011 1223231710121216813222013 12111311111212
132414111114121211141330 1691011112514192915151718 111119231516181736371212 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132414111114121212141330 1691011112514192915151718 111119231516181736371212 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132414111114121211141330 169911112514192915151718 111119231515181736371212Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
Uncategorized Haplotypes.
132214111114121211131328 1691011112515192815151718 111119241715171637381212 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132314121214121411131329 1791011112515193014151617 101119231615171735391212 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132414111115121212131329 1791011112515193015151617 111019231515171837371212 11915169101081010 1223231610121213812232013 12111311111212
132414111114121212121328 1791011112615192715161717 111119231615171637371212 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132415111115121213131329 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132515101114121211131129 169911112314193412121515 111119191716181835351511 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
142413111113111210141431 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132515111111121212121328 1991011112514192915151617 111118231515201637381112 11915168111081010 1223231610121214812232014 12111311111213
123456789101112 13141516171819202122232425 *Note 262728293031323334353637 383940414243444546474849 50515253545556575859606162 6364656667

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Table 2 - Group 4:

 
Line
No.
SurnameID Earliest
Documented
Ancestor
Haplogroup
SNP
which
Defines the
Haplogroup ‡


Family Tree DNA Test Group   ==>
Group #4
4-1Assumed Modal Hendrik ConradR1a1aR-M198
4-2Venter169127 Hendrik ConradR1a1a1b1a1R-M458
4-3Venter73298 Henri FenderR1a1a1b1a1R-M458
4-4Venter89593 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-5Venter87173 Hendrik ConradR1a1aR-M198
4-6Venter87825 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-7VenterN143633 R1a1
4-8Venter285539 R1a1aR-M198
4-9Venter87448 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-10VenterN71470 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-11Venter140014 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-12Venter173934 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-13Venter143654   R1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-14Venter132347 Hendrik ConradR1a1aR-M198
4-15Venter159767 Hendrik ConradR1a1R-SRY10831.2
4-16Venter143506 Hendrik ConradR1a1aR-M198
4-17Venter78508 Hendrik ConradR1a1aR-M198
4-18JonesB5940 R1a1aR-M198
4-19Brady ♦ B8010Johann Michael VetterR1a1a1b1a1R-M458
4-20Venter233236 R1a1aR-M198
4-21Venter320123 R1a1aR-M198
Family Tree DNA Marker Number   ==>
DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#) DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#)
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
|
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
|
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
4
e
4
6
4
f
4
6
4
g
4
6
4
h
4
6
4
i
4
6
4
j
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
 
H
4
Y
C
A
 
I
I
a
Y
C
A
 
I
I
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
5
3
1
5
7
8
3
9
5
S
1
a
3
9
5
S
1
b
5
9
0
5
3
7
6
4
1
4
7
2
4
0
6
S
1
5
1
1
4
2
5
4
1
3
a
4
1
3
b
5
5
7
5
9
4
4
3
6
4
9
0
5
3
4
4
5
0
4
4
4
4
8
1
5
2
0
4
4
6
6
1
7
5
6
8
4
8
7
5
7
2
6
4
0
4
9
2
5
6
5
Y-DNA12 Y-DNA13 - 25 * See Note #2 Y-DNA26 - 37 Y-DNA38 - 47 Y-DNA48 - 60 Y-DNA60 - 67
Categorized as SOUTH AFRICAN Haplotype.
132516101114121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816181835401311 12817178111081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111311111213
132516101114121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816181835401311 12817178111081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111311111213
132516101114121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816181835401311 12816178111081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111311111213
132516101114121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816181935391311 12817178111081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111311111213
132516101114121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816171835401312 12817178101081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111311111213
132516101114121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816181835401311 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101114121211131129 1699111223142032121215151516 111119211815181835351311 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101114121211131129 16991112231420321212121515151516 111119211816181835351311 12817178111081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111311111213
132516101114121211131129 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101114121211131129 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101114121211131129 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101114121211131129 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101114121211131129 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101214121211131129 16910111223142032121215151516 111119211816181835401311 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101214121211131129 1691011122314203211121215151516 111119211816181835401311 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132516101214121212131129 16101011122314203215151616 111119211816181840401311 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132517101115121211131129 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132515101114121211131129 1699111123142034121215151516 111119191716181933341411 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
132615101114121211131129 169911112314203112121212151515151516 111119231716161934341411 13817178111081210 1221221510121213814252112 12111411111213
13261691113121211131129 1699111123142031121215151516 111119231616191934391411 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
13261691113121211131129 1599111123142031121215151516 111119231616181933391411 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual.
123456789101112 13141516171819202122232425 * See Note #2 262728293031323334353637 383940414243444546474849 50515253545556575859606162 6364656667

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Notes:

♦ Note #3: Test kit #B8010 (Line #4-19) is a very unusual case. As note #2 indicates, most men have only 4 occurrences of DYS#464 and the South African Haplotype in general shows six. Kit #B8010 shows 10 occurrences, a very interesting and rare result.

* Note #2: The South African Haplotype has an interesting result for DSY#464. Most of our South African Venters have six occurrences of this marker and some have even more, whereas men in the general population have only four. For more information about DSY#464 go to isogg.org.

‡ Note #1: Haplogroup types have been modified, as of June 2013, to reflect the fact that FamilyTreeDNA is now designating the Haplogroup by its defining SNP. Please refer to the revised International Society of Genetic Genealogy web page for more details.

Analysis

The table above shows the marker values for each of our project participants. Each individual's test results are displayed horizontally and are identified by a unique "ID", which is the test kit number assigned to that participant's DNA sample. Surnames are provided because, in addition to Venter, our project is also looking at variations in spelling of the name as well as other surnames that could be related.

Test results are grouped according to category. The top line in each group is the haplotype which, when compared to the others within the group, appears to be the "modal" that defines that group. The haplotype chosen to be the modal may change as more results become available. Marker alleles that differ from the modal are highlighted in yellow and the test results are sorted with respect to these differences.

The Eastern European Group. The Venter DNA Project has tested only one individual from the Eastern European group and his haplotype has been found to be unique among the known Venter genetic lines. Because we have only one sample from this group it is impossible to tell at this time if this is truly a unique genetic line of Venters or if this particular sample is the result of a 'non-paternity event'.

The English Group has seven individuals at this time, and two have haplotypes which match perfectly for markers 1 - 25 (the only markers for which both have been tested). This is not surprising, since documentation shows that these two individuals are very closely related. The third and fifth individuals are more distantly related, as their halpotypes differ from the modal at five locations. Kit #114796 shows ten mismatches of the 67 markers tested and may not belong to this group at all.

In the German group, ID 31552, was chosen as the modal strictly for convenience, although either of the others may have just as easily been designated as the modal. At this point there isn't enough information to recommend one over the other. The DNA indicates that all of these participants share a common ancestor and documentation shows that Kits # 31552 and #508943 are very closely related.

In the South African group there is little ambiguity. The few outliers that exist do not have an unusual number of mismatches. Since all of the Venters in South Africa are believed to be descended from one original immigrant, the fact that there is such good agreement is not surprising. In most cases differences only start to show up in markers further to the right, giving hope that we may be able to differentiate the various family lines within the South African clan. You can see how the family lines of our participants fit together by viewing our South African Venter Family Tree.

The South African group also shows the unusual feature of having DYS#464 occur more than the usual four times. (See Note #2 below the table.) This seems to be an active marker in the South African population and could be a great help in narrowing the search for the original immigrant's family line outside of South Africa.

Lines 4-18 through 4-21 should probably not be included in the South African group. Their haplotypes differ from the South Africans' by too much. However, it is the unusual DYS#464 marker results that suggest that they may belong here. Exceept for kit #B8010 (line 4-19) their DYS#464 alleles match the South African values exactly, which at this point is hard to explain. So, until they can be placed in a more suitable group, they will remain with the South Africans along with the caveat that it is recognized that this could be an error.

The Uncategorized group contains the test results that do not fall into either of the other groups and, therefore, no differences are highlighted. At this point, each one represents its own unique genetic line and each may have its own history and place of origin. Eventually, as more results become available, we should find others that match these haplotypes and we will be able to give each its own group designation.

Return to the Venter Surname DNA Project page.

Prepared by Robert Venter
Venter Surname DNA Project Leader

mail box Send e-mail to: venter.genealogy@comcast.net

Version: 150;   Updated on Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 2:30 pm