Y-Chromosome Test Results & Analysis

Purpose: The goal of the Venter Surname DNA Project is to identify, isolate, and categorize the different genetic lines which comprise our surname. Once that is done, the next step is to determine to which specific lineage each individual belongs. However, in order to determine what genetic lines exist, we must first test Venter surnamed individuals in order to identify the various haplotypes.

Note: To aid in understanding the material on this page, visitors may find it helpful to read A Short Course In Genetic Genealogy, located elsewhere at this site.

Original Hypothesis: Our initial hypothesis was that there were very few, and possibly only one, Venter genetic line (or haplotype). This was based on the fact that, in relation to other European genetic lines, the Venter surname is extremely rare.

Status: Preliminary steps have been taken toward determining the validity of the original hypothesis. However, the test results of the individuals we have analyzed so far, indicate that there are at least four, and possibly more, identifiable and unrelated Venter genetic lines. These results have been grouped and categorized as follows:

• Group #1: Eastern European Ancestry: The Venter DNA Project has become aware of a clan of Venter families located in north-western Romania and perhaps spilling over into eastern Hungary. Our one sample of DNA from this group shows it to be a genetically unique population, unrelated to other known populations of Venters. With the hope of finding many more project participants from this population we have created our newest group, which we have labeled "Eastern European".
• Group #2: English Ancestry: The participants who have identified their ancestry as English and whose haplotypes strongly indicate that they are related, have been categorized as belonging to the "English" group.
• Group #3: German Ancestry: The participants who have identified their ancestry as German and whose haplotypes strongly indicate that they are related, have been categorized as belonging to the "German" group.
• Group #4: South African Ancestry: The participants who have identified their ancestry as South African and whose haplotypes strongly indicate that they are related, have been categorized as belonging to the "South African" group.
• Group #5: All Others: Participants whose marker data does not appear to match the identified groups, no matter what they claim as their ancestry, have been place in the "Uncategorized" group. As more becomes know, these will be grouped appropriately.

Test Results

At FamilyTreeDNA.com project participants choose a test to analyze groups of 12, 25, 37, 67 or 111 markers. The results of those tests are listed below. The marker numbers are located at the bottom of each table. Note that, due to space limitations, the results for markers #68 - #111, if available, have not been included. The following tables show allele values (i.e., the number of repeats) for each "Short Tandem Repeat" (STR) marker tested. Each STR is identified by its DNA Y-chromosome Sequence Number (DYS#), which is listed across the top of the right-hand portion of the table. The STR values for each individual appear below each DYS#, respectively, and one may compare the tested values between individuals by reading down the column below each DYS#. The assumed modal haplotype for each identified group is shown in the first row of its group. Values differing from the group modal value are highlighted in yellow.

Table 1 - Groups 1, 2, 3 & 5:

Line No. Surname ID Earliest Documented Ancestor Haplogroup SNP which Defines the Haplogroup‡ Family Tree DNA Test Group   ==> Group #1 1-1 Venter 202167   J1 J-M267 Group #2 2-1 Venter 109845   R1b1a2a1a1c2 R-L164 2-2 Venter 74467   R1b1a2 R-M269 2-3 Hokanson 94923   R1b1a2a1a1c2 R-L164 2-4 Brown 406300   R1b1a2 R-M269 2-5 Briggs 368552   2-6 Peterson 114796   R1b1a2 R-M269 2-7 Warman 289913   R1b1a2a1a R-P311 Group #3 3-1 Venter 31552 Johann Adam R1b1a2a1a2b2 R-Z36 3-2 Venter 508943 Johann Adam R1b1a2a1a2b2 R-Z36 3-3 Venter 43528   R1b1a2 R-M269 3-4 Fenter 107281 Johann Peter R1b1a2 R-M269 Group #5 5-1 Venter 223841   R1b1a2 R-M269 5-2 Venter 219823   R1b1a2 R-M269 5-3 Venters 98133   R1b1a2 R-M269 5-4 Vandeventer 308210   R1b1a2 R-M269 5-5 van Deventer N32142   R1b1a2 R-M269 5-6 Venter 81208     N-M231 5-7 Vengertsev 341993   R1b1a2 R-269 Family Tree DNA Marker Number   ==>

DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#) DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#) 3 9 3 3 9 0 1 9 3 9 1 3 8 5 a 3 8 5 b 4 2 6 3 8 8 4 3 9 3 8 9 | 1 3 9 2 3 8 9 | 2 4 5 8 4 5 9 a 4 5 9 b 4 5 5 4 5 4 4 4 7 4 3 7 4 4 8 4 4 9 4 6 4 a 4 6 4 b 4 6 4 c 4 6 4 d 4 6 4 e 4 6 4 f 4 6 0 G A T A   H 4 Y C A   I I a Y C A   I I b 4 5 6 6 0 7 5 7 6 5 7 0 C D Y a C D Y b 4 4 2 4 3 8 5 3 1 5 7 8 3 9 5 S 1 a 3 9 5 S 1 b 5 9 0 5 3 7 6 4 1 4 7 2 4 0 6 S 1 5 1 1 4 2 5 4 1 3 a 4 1 3 b 5 5 7 5 9 4 4 3 6 4 9 0 5 3 4 4 5 0 4 4 4 4 8 1 5 2 0 4 4 6 6 1 7 5 6 8 4 8 7 5 7 2 6 4 0 4 9 2 5 6 5 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA13 - 25 *Note Y-DNA26 - 37 Y-DNA38 - 47 Y-DNA48 - 60 Y-DNA60 - 67 Categorized as EASTERN EUROPEAN Haplotype. 12 23 14 10 10 19 11 16 12 14 12 31 12 8 9 11 10 26 14 19 29 13 16 16 16 10 11 19 22 15 14 17 17 32 37 12 10 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. Categorized as ENGLISH Haplotype. 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 37 38 12 12 12 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 Markers 26 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 27 15 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 19 17 37 38 12 12 12 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 19 16 37 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 17 17 37 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 13 12 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 37 38 12 12 11 9 15 15 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 23 20 12 12 11 13 11 11 13 12 Categorized as GERMAN Haplotype. 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 17 36 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 11 12 23 23 17 10 12 12 16 8 13 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 17 36 37 12 12 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30 16 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 17 36 37 12 12 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 30 16 9 9 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 36 37 12 12 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. Uncategorized Haplotypes. 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 15 15 17 18 11 11 19 24 17 15 17 16 37 38 12 12 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 23 14 12 12 14 12 14 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 14 15 16 17 10 11 19 23 16 15 17 17 35 39 12 12 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 17 11 10 19 23 15 15 17 18 37 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 9 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 13 8 12 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 12 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 27 15 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 17 16 37 37 12 12 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 24 15 11 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 14 24 13 11 11 13 11 12 10 14 14 31 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 15 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 28 19 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 16 17 11 11 18 23 15 15 20 16 37 38 11 12 11 9 15 16 8 11 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 14 8 12 23 20 14 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 *Note 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67

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Table 2 - Group 4:

View the South African Family Tree starting with patriarch Hendrik Conrad Venter.

Line No. Surname ID Earliest Documented Ancestor Haplogroup SNP which Defines the Haplogroup ‡ Family Tree DNA Test Group   ==> Group #4 4-1 Assumed Modal Hendrik Conrad R1a1a R-M198 4-2 Venter 169127 Hendrik Conrad R1a1a1b1a1 R-M458 4-3 Venter 73298 Henri Fender R1a1a1b1a1 R-M458 4-4 Venter 89593 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-5 Venter 87173 Hendrik Conrad R1a1a R-M198 4-6 Venter 87825 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-7 Venter N143633 R1a1 4-8 Venter 285539 R1a1a R-M198 4-9 Venter 87448 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-10 Venter N71470 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-11 Venter 140014 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-12 Venter 173934 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-13 Venter 143654   R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-14 Venter 132347 Hendrik Conrad R1a1a R-M198 4-15 Venter 159767 Hendrik Conrad R1a1 R-SRY10831.2 4-16 Venter 143506 Hendrik Conrad R1a1a R-M198 4-17 Venter 78508 Hendrik Conrad R1a1a R-M198 4-18 Jones B5940   R1a1a R-M198 4-19 Brady ♦ B8010 Johann Michael Vetter R1a1a1b1a1 R-M458 4-20 Venter 233236   R1a1a R-M198 4-21 Venter 320123   R1a1a R-M198 Family Tree DNA Marker Number   ==>

DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#) DNA Y-chromosome Segment Number (DYS#) 3 9 3 3 9 0 1 9 3 9 1 3 8 5 a 3 8 5 b 4 2 6 3 8 8 4 3 9 3 8 9 | 1 3 9 2 3 8 9 | 2 4 5 8 4 5 9 a 4 5 9 b 4 5 5 4 5 4 4 4 7 4 3 7 4 4 8 4 4 9 4 6 4 a 4 6 4 b 4 6 4 c 4 6 4 d 4 6 4 e 4 6 4 f 4 6 4 g 4 6 4 h 4 6 4 i 4 6 4 j 4 6 0 G A T A   H 4 Y C A   I I a Y C A   I I b 4 5 6 6 0 7 5 7 6 5 7 0 C D Y a C D Y b 4 4 2 4 3 8 5 3 1 5 7 8 3 9 5 S 1 a 3 9 5 S 1 b 5 9 0 5 3 7 6 4 1 4 7 2 4 0 6 S 1 5 1 1 4 2 5 4 1 3 a 4 1 3 b 5 5 7 5 9 4 4 3 6 4 9 0 5 3 4 4 5 0 4 4 4 4 8 1 5 2 0 4 4 6 6 1 7 5 6 8 4 8 7 5 7 2 6 4 0 4 9 2 5 6 5 Y-DNA12 Y-DNA13 - 25 * See Note #2 Y-DNA26 - 37 Y-DNA38 - 47 Y-DNA48 - 60 Y-DNA60 - 67 Categorized as SOUTH AFRICAN Haplotype. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 40 13 11 12 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 40 13 11 12 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 40 13 11 12 8 16 17 8 11 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 19 35 39 13 11 12 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 17 18 35 40 13 12 12 8 17 17 8 10 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 40 13 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 9 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 15 18 18 35 35 13 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 9 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 12 15 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 35 13 11 12 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 13 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 12 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 40 13 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 12 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 11 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 35 40 13 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 16 10 12 14 12 12 12 13 11 29 16 10 10 11 12 23 14 20 32 15 15 16 16 11 11 19 21 18 16 18 18 40 40 13 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 17 10 11 15 12 12 11 13 11 29 Markers 13 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 14 20 34 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 19 17 16 18 19 33 34 14 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 26 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 12 12 12 15 15 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 23 17 16 16 19 34 34 14 11 13 8 17 17 8 11 10 8 12 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 13 8 14 25 21 12 12 11 14 11 11 12 13 13 26 16 9 11 13 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 9 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 23 16 16 19 19 34 39 14 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 13 26 16 9 11 13 12 12 11 13 11 29 15 9 9 11 11 23 14 20 31 12 12 15 15 15 16 11 11 19 23 16 16 18 19 33 39 14 11 Markers 38 - 67 have not yet been tested for this individual. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 * See Note #2 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67

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Analysis

The table above shows the marker values for each of our project participants. Each individual's test results are displayed horizontally and are identified by a unique "ID", which is the test kit number assigned to that participant's DNA sample. Surnames are provided because, in addition to Venter, our project is also looking at variations in spelling of the name as well as other surnames that could be related.

Test results are grouped according to category. The top line in each group is the haplotype which, when compared to the others within the group, appears to be the "modal" that defines that group. The haplotype chosen to be the modal may change as more results become available. Marker alleles that differ from the modal are highlighted in yellow and the test results are sorted with respect to these differences.

The Eastern European Group. The Venter DNA Project has tested only one individual from the Eastern European group and his haplotype has been found to be unique among the known Venter genetic lines. Because we have only one sample from this group it is impossible to tell at this time if this is truly a unique genetic line of Venters or if this particular sample is the result of a 'non-paternity event'.

The English Group has seven individuals at this time, and two have haplotypes which match perfectly for markers 1 - 25 (the only markers for which both have been tested). This is not surprising, since documentation shows that these two individuals are very closely related. The third and fifth individuals are more distantly related, as their halpotypes differ from the modal at five locations. Kit #114796 shows ten mismatches of the 67 markers tested and may not belong to this group at all.

In the German group, ID 31552, was chosen as the modal strictly for convenience, although either of the others may have just as easily been designated as the modal. At this point there isn't enough information to recommend one over the other. The DNA indicates that all of these participants share a common ancestor and documentation shows that Kits # 31552 and #508943 are very closely related.

In the South African group there is little ambiguity. The few outliers that exist do not have an unusual number of mismatches. Since all of the Venters in South Africa are believed to be descended from one original immigrant, the fact that there is such good agreement is not surprising. In most cases differences only start to show up in markers further to the right, giving hope that we may be able to differentiate the various family lines within the South African clan. You can see how the family lines of our participants fit together by viewing our South African Venter Family Tree.

The South African group also shows the unusual feature of having DYS#464 occur more than the usual four times. (See Note #2 below the table.) This seems to be an active marker in the South African population and could be a great help in narrowing the search for the original immigrant's family line outside of South Africa.

Lines 4-18 through 4-21 should probably not be included in the South African group. Their haplotypes differ from the South Africans' by too much. However, it is the unusual DYS#464 marker results that suggest that they may belong here. Exceept for kit #B8010 (line 4-19) their DYS#464 alleles match the South African values exactly, which at this point is hard to explain. So, until they can be placed in a more suitable group, they will remain with the South Africans along with the caveat that it is recognized that this could be an error.

The Uncategorized group contains the test results that do not fall into either of the other groups and, therefore, no differences are highlighted. At this point, each one represents its own unique genetic line and each may have its own history and place of origin. Eventually, as more results become available, we should find others that match these haplotypes and we will be able to give each its own group designation.

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Version: 151;   Updated on Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 6:30 pm