Charles Beck

M, #397, b. 26 June 1804, d. 24 August 1873
Father*Johann Jacob Beck b. 13 Oct 1773
Mother*Maria Dorothea Ehrhard b. 21 Apr 1769, d. c 1863
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LDS ID Number* Charles Beck's LDS Familysearch Family Tree ID is: L8R9-WFM. 
Note* Charles' birth record was recorded on 7 Messidor XII using the French Republican Calendar. This converts to 26 Jun 1804.

Charles Beck is indicated to be the father of Caroline Beck in her birth record. However, there is some doubt as to whether this Charles Beck is Caroline's father (See the details recorded with Caroline Beck). There is no doubt that this Charles Beck is the one that married Marie Catherine Riehl. 
Birth*26 June 1804 Charles Beck was born on 26 June 1804 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; Date: 7 Messidor XII (26 Jun 1804); Child's Name: Charles Beck; Father: Jacques Beck; Mother: Dorothea Ehrhard.
 
 Charles Beck was the son of Johann Jacob Beck and Maria Dorothea Ehrhard
Marriage*31 March 1834 Charles Beck married Marie Catherine Riehl, daughter of Jean Jacques Riehl and Anne Marie Herzog, on 31 March 1834 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 8; Date: 31 Mar 1834; Husband: Charles Beck, age: 30; Born: 7 Messidor XII (FRC) (Father: Jean Jacques Beck (Deceased), Mother: Dorothé Ehrhard, age: 66); Wife: Marie Catherine Riehl, age: 27; Born: 7 Feb 1807 (Father: Jacques Riehl, age: 53, Mother: Anne Marie Herzog, age: 53).
 
Census*1836 Charles Beck appeared on the census of 1836 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin. 
Occupation* Charles Beck was a Menuisier (carpenter). 
Death*24 August 1873 Charles Beck died on 24 August 1873 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin, at age 69; Death was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Death Register; Date: 24 Aug 1873; Name: Carl Beck, age: 69; Spouse: Maria Catharina Riehl; Son of: Jacob Beck and Dorothea Ehrhardt; Reported by: Jacob Beck, age: 34, son of the deceased. 

Family

Marie Catherine Riehl b. 7 Feb 1807
Marriage*31 March 1834 Charles Beck married Marie Catherine Riehl, daughter of Jean Jacques Riehl and Anne Marie Herzog, on 31 March 1834 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 8; Date: 31 Mar 1834; Husband: Charles Beck, age: 30; Born: 7 Messidor XII (FRC) (Father: Jean Jacques Beck (Deceased), Mother: Dorothé Ehrhard, age: 66); Wife: Marie Catherine Riehl, age: 27; Born: 7 Feb 1807 (Father: Jacques Riehl, age: 53, Mother: Anne Marie Herzog, age: 53).
 
Children
Last Edited16 Feb 2019

Charles Beck

M, #400, b. 12 February 1836
Father*Charles Beck b. 26 Jun 1804, d. 24 Aug 1873
Mother*Marie Catherine Riehl b. 7 Feb 1807
Birth*12 February 1836 Charles Beck was born on 12 February 1836 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 19, Date: 12 Feb 1836; Child's Name: Charles Beck; Father: Charles Beck, age: 30; Mother: Catherine Marie Riehl, age: 28. Witness: Jacques Riehl, age: 56.
 
 Charles Beck was the son of Charles Beck and Marie Catherine Riehl
(Witness) Census1836 Charles Beck appeared on the census of 1836 in the household of Charles Beck at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin. 
Marriage*12 July 1862 Charles Beck married Caroline Debus, daughter of Jonathan Debus and Caroline Debus, on 12 July 1862 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 21, Date: 12 Jul 1862; Charles Beck, age: 26; Born: 12 Feb 1836 (Father: Charles Beck, age: 58; Mother: Catherina Marie Riehl, age: 55); Wife: Caroline Debus, age: 25; Born: 30 Nov 1836 (Father: Jonathan Debus, Mother: Caroline (nee) Debus).
 

Family

Caroline Debus b. 13 Nov 1836
Child
Last Edited31 Aug 2010

Cretien Beck

M, #404, b. 24 April 1806
Father*Johann Jacob Beck b. 13 Oct 1773
Mother*Maria Dorothea Ehrhard b. 21 Apr 1769, d. c 1863
Birth*24 April 1806 Cretien Beck was born on 24 April 1806 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Birth Records; Page: 11; Date: 24 Apr 1806; Child's Name: Cretien; Father: Jacquea Beck, age: 33; Mother: Dorothé Ehrhard.

 
 Cretien Beck was the son of Johann Jacob Beck and Maria Dorothea Ehrhard
Last Edited14 Feb 2004

Dorotheé Beck

F, #1384, b. 28 July 1842, d. 24 October 1843
Father*Charles Beck b. 26 Jun 1804, d. 24 Aug 1873
Mother*Marie Catherine Riehl b. 7 Feb 1807
Birth*28 July 1842 Dorotheé Beck was born on 28 July 1842 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No.73, Date: 28 Jul 1842; Child's Name: Dorotheé Beck; Father: Charles Beck, age: 38; Mother: Marie Catherine Riehl, age: 35. 
 Dorotheé Beck was the daughter of Charles Beck and Marie Catherine Riehl
Death*24 October 1843 Dorotheé Beck died on 24 October 1843 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin, at age 1; Death was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Death Register; Date:24 Oct 1843; Child's Name: Dorothea Beck, age: 1; Father: Charles Beck; Mother: Marie Riehl. 
Last Edited16 Feb 2019

Eva Beck

F, #2702, b. 23 November 1718
Father*Johannes Beck
Mother*Eva Hummel
Birth*23 November 1718 Eva Beck was born on 23 November 1718 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Bischheim Evangelische Church Baptism Registry: Date: 23 Nov 1718; Child's Name: Eva; Father: Hanß Beck (Schreiner); Mother: Eva Hummel. 
 Eva Beck was the daughter of Johannes Beck and Eva Hummel
Last Edited22 Nov 2010

Friederich Beck

M, #1396, b. 29 October 1802
Father*Johann Jacob Beck b. 13 Oct 1773
Mother*Maria Dorothea Ehrhard b. 21 Apr 1769, d. c 1863
Birth*29 October 1802 Friederich Beck was born on 29 October 1802 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; Page: 1, Date: 7 Brumaire XI (FRC)(29 Oct 1802); Child's Name: Friederich Beck; Father: Jacob Beck; Mother: Dorothea Ehrhard. 
 Friederich Beck was the son of Johann Jacob Beck and Maria Dorothea Ehrhard
Last Edited20 Jun 2009

Jacques Beck

M, #401, b. 16 September 1838
Father*Charles Beck b. 26 Jun 1804, d. 24 Aug 1873
Mother*Marie Catherine Riehl b. 7 Feb 1807
Birth*16 September 1838 Jacques Beck was born on 16 September 1838 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 73, Date: 16 Sep 1838; Child's Name: Jacques Beck; Father: Charles Beck, age: 34; Mother: Anne Marie Riehl, age: 30.
 
 Jacques Beck was the son of Charles Beck and Marie Catherine Riehl
(Witness) Death24 August 1873 Jacques Beck witnessed the death of Charles Beck on 24 August 1873 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Death was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Death Register; Date: 24 Aug 1873; Name: Carl Beck, age: 69; Spouse: Maria Catharina Riehl; Son of: Jacob Beck and Dorothea Ehrhardt; Reported by: Jacob Beck, age: 34, son of the deceased. 
Last Edited16 Feb 2019

Jocabea Beck

F, #3486, b. 3 April 1801
Father*Johann Jacob Beck b. 13 Oct 1773
Mother*Maria Dorothea Ehrhard b. 21 Apr 1769, d. c 1863
Birth*3 April 1801 Jocabea Beck was born on 3 April 1801 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schilltigheim Civil Birth Registor: Date: 13 Germanil IX (FRC); Child's Name: Jocabie; Father: Johann Jacob Beck; Mother: Marie Dorothea Ehrhard. 
 Jocabea Beck was the daughter of Johann Jacob Beck and Maria Dorothea Ehrhard
Marriage*19 July 1832 Jocabea Beck married Jean Frederic Kuamo on 19 July 1832 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Schilltigheim Civil Birth Registor: Date: 19 July 1832;Husband: Jean Frederic Kuamo; Bride: Jacobie Beck. 

Family

Jean Frederic Kuamo b. 4 May 1800
Last Edited16 Feb 2019

Johann Georg Beck

M, #2614, b. 4 October 1720
Father*Johannes Beck
Mother*Eva Hummel
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Birth*4 October 1720 Johann Georg Beck was born on 4 October 1720 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Bischheim Evangelische Church Baptism Registry: Date: 4 Oct 1720; Child's Name: Johann Georg; Father: Hanß Beck (Schreiner); Mother: Eva Hummel. 
 Johann Georg Beck was the son of Johannes Beck and Eva Hummel
Marriage*5 January 1751 Johann Georg Beck married Anna Maria Schwartz on 5 January 1751 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Bischheim Evangelische Church Marriage Registry: Date: 5 Jan 1751; Groom: Johann Georg Beck; Father: Hanß Beck; Bride: Anna Maria Schwartz. 
Marriage*7 November 1758 Johann Georg Beck married Rosina Riedinger, daughter of Jacob Riedinger and Maria Dustler, on 7 November 1758 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Evangelic Church of Bischheim; Date: 7 Nov 1758; Groom: Johann Georg Beck; Bride: Rosina RiedingerFather: Jacob Riedinger, of Hoerdt.

 

Family 1

Anna Maria Schwartz b. c 14 Dec 1723, d. 10 Aug 1755

Family 2

Rosina Riedinger b. 29 Jan 1738
Child
Last Edited22 Nov 2010

Johann Jacob Beck

M, #402, b. 13 October 1773
Father*Johann Georg Beck b. 4 Oct 1720
Mother*Rosina Riedinger b. 29 Jan 1738
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Birth*13 October 1773 Johann Jacob Beck was born on 13 October 1773 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Bischheim Civil Birth Registor: Date: 13 Oct 1773; Child's Name: Johann Jacob; Father: Johann Georg Beck; Mother: Rosina Riedinger. 
 Johann Jacob Beck was the son of Johann Georg Beck and Rosina Riedinger
Marriage*8 January 1795 Johann Jacob Beck married Maria Dorothea Ehrhard, daughter of Johann Daniel Ehrhard and Maria Salom Rhein, on 8 January 1795 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Marriage Records; Page: 5; Date: 19 Nivose III (8 Jan 1795); Groom: Jacob Beck, age: 21 (Father: Johann Georg Beck; Mother: Rosina Riedinger); Bride: Dorothea Ehrhard, age: 25 (Father: Johann Daniel Ehrhard (Deceased), of Schiltigheim; Mother: Salom Rhein.

 

Family

Maria Dorothea Ehrhard b. 21 Apr 1769, d. c 1863
Children
Last Edited16 Feb 2019

Johannes Beck

M, #2700
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Marriage*7 September 1717 Johannes Beck married Eva Hummel on 7 September 1717 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Bischheim Evangelische Church Marriage Registry: Date: 7 Sep 1717; Groom: Hanß Beck; Bride: Eva Hummel; Father: Hanß Hummel (Schreiner). 

Family

Eva Hummel
Children
Last Edited22 Nov 2010

Johannes Beck

M, #2703, b. 28 January 1728
Father*Johannes Beck
Mother*Eva Hummel
Birth*28 January 1728 Johannes Beck was born on 28 January 1728 at Bischheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Bischheim Evangelische Church Baptism Registry: Date: 28 Jan 1728; Child's Name: Johannes; Father: Hanß Beck (Schreiner); Mother: Eva Hummel. 
 Johannes Beck was the son of Johannes Beck and Eva Hummel
Last Edited22 Nov 2010

Marie Salomé Beck

F, #399, b. 20 January 1835, d. 25 February 1900
Father*Charles Beck b. 26 Jun 1804, d. 24 Aug 1873
Mother*Marie Catherine Riehl b. 7 Feb 1807
Birth*20 January 1835 Marie Salomé Beck was born on 20 January 1835 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 4, Date: 20 Jan 1835; Child's Name: Marie Salomé Beck; Father: Charles Beck, age: 31; Mother: Marie Catherine Riehl, age: 27. Witness: Jacques Riehl, age: 54.
 
 Marie Salomé Beck was the daughter of Charles Beck and Marie Catherine Riehl
(Witness) Census1836 Marie Salomé Beck appeared on the census of 1836 in the household of Charles Beck at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin. 
Marriage*19 April 1856 Marie Salomé Beck married Frederic Kiffel, son of Frederic Kiffel and Christine Michailé, on 19 April 1856 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Marriage was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; No. 5, Date: 19 Apr 1856; Groom: Frederic Kiffel, age: 23; Born: 2 May 1832 (Father: Fredric Kissel, age 46, Mother: Christine Michailé, age: 51); Bride: Marie Salomé Beck, age: 21; Born: 20 Jan 1835 (Father: Charles Beck, age: 52, Mother: Marie Catherine Riehl, age: 48).
 
Death*25 February 1900 Marie Salomé Beck died on 25 February 1900 at Nancy at age 65. 

Family

Frederic Kiffel b. 2 May 1832, d. 13 Nov 1910
Child
Last Edited15 Jan 2019

Salomé Beck

F, #1395, b. 28 November 1798
Father*Johann Jacob Beck b. 13 Oct 1773
Mother*Maria Dorothea Ehrhard b. 21 Apr 1769, d. c 1863
Birth*28 November 1798 Salomé Beck was born on 28 November 1798 at Schiltigheim, Bas-Rhin; Birth was recorded in the Schiltigheim Civil Registry; Page: 9, Date: 8 Frimaire VII (28 Nov 1798); Child's Name: Saloma Beck; Father: Jacob Beck, age: 24; Mother: Dorothea Ehrhard. 
 Salomé Beck was the daughter of Johann Jacob Beck and Maria Dorothea Ehrhard
Last Edited29 Oct 2004

Anna Magdalena Becker

F, #2544, b. circa 1687
Father*Nickel Becker
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Birth*circa 1687 Anna Magdalena Becker was born circa 1687 at Jeckenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz. 
 Anna Magdalena Becker was the daughter of Nickel Becker
Marriage*circa 28 February 1708 Anna Magdalena Becker married Georg Schneider, son of Johannes Schneider and Maria Schopp, circa 28 February 1708 at Meisenheim, Rheinland-Pfalz. 

Family

Georg Schneider b. c 26 Oct 1685
Children
Last Edited13 Nov 2012

Nickel Becker

M, #2832
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Child
Last Edited13 Nov 2012

Celia Beecher

F, #564
Marriage*April 1964 Celia Beecher married Curtis Lee Weigold, son of Donald Elmer Weigold and Alice E. Syverson, in April 1964. 

Family

Curtis Lee Weigold
Children
Last Edited27 Nov 2001

Dorothy Belles

F, #3050, b. circa 1904, d. 1985
Father*George Belles
Mother*Dora Brown
Birth*circa 1904 Dorothy Belles was born circa 1904. 
 Dorothy Belles was the daughter of George Belles and Dora Brown
Marriage*31 March 1924 Dorothy Belles married Edwin Charles Schnepper, son of Louis Frank Schnepper and Julia Liebermann, on 31 March 1924 at Lawrence Co., Illinois. 
Death*1985 Dorothy Belles died in 1985. 

Family

Edwin Charles Schnepper b. 26 Aug 1901, d. 4 Oct 1974
Children
Last Edited31 Mar 2019

George Belles

M, #3181
Marriage* George Belles married Dora Brown

Family

Dora Brown
Child
Last Edited25 Jun 2018

Anna Maria Bender

F, #1104

Family

Child
Last Edited25 Feb 2002

Carolina Bender

F, #1102, b. 29 December 1853, d. 14 January 1854
Father*Jakob Bender b. 19 May 1828
Mother*Philippina Venter b. 28 Oct 1831
Birth*29 December 1853 Carolina Bender was born on 29 December 1853 at Odenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz; Carolina's record of death, dated 14 Jan 1854, gives her age as 14 days, placing her birth date on 1 Jan 1854. 
 Carolina Bender was the daughter of Jakob Bender and Philippina Venter
Death*14 January 1854 Carolina Bender died on 14 January 1854 at Odenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz; Death was recorded in the Reform Church Registry at Odenbach.

No. 2
Date : 14 jan 1854
Child's Name:Carolina Bender, age: 14 days
Father: Jakob Bender of Odenbach
Mother: Philippina Venter. 
Last Edited9 Feb 2019

Elisabetha Bender

F, #3485, b. 6 February 1855
Father*Jakob Bender b. 19 May 1828
Mother*Philippina Venter b. 28 Oct 1831
Birth*6 February 1855 Elisabetha Bender was born on 6 February 1855 at Odenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz. 
 Elisabetha Bender was the daughter of Jakob Bender and Philippina Venter
Last Edited9 Feb 2019

Jacob Bender

M, #1107, b. 20 April 1859
Father*Jakob Bender b. 19 May 1828
Mother*Philippina Venter b. 28 Oct 1831
Birth*20 April 1859 Jacob Bender was born on 20 April 1859 at Odenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz; Birth was recorded in the Reform Church Registry at Odenbach; No. 22; Date : 20 Apr 1859; Child's Name: Jacob Bender; Father: Jacob Bender; Mother: Philippina Venter.
 
 Jacob Bender was the son of Jakob Bender and Philippina Venter
Last Edited9 Jun 2005

Jakob Bender

M, #1096, b. 19 May 1828
Mother*Anna Maria Bender
BirthIlleg*19 May 1828 Jakob Bender was born illegitimate on 19 May 1828 at Adenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz; Birth was recorded in the Reform Church Registry at Odenbach; No. 17; Date : 19 May 1828; Child's Name:Jacob Bender; Illegitimate son of Anna Maria Bender of Odenbach; Jakob's record of marriage to Philippina Venter on 21 Jan 1853 also gives his date of birth as 19 May 1828. 
 Jakob Bender was the son of Anna Maria Bender
Marriage*21 January 1853 Jakob Bender married Philippina Venter, daughter of Johannes Venter and Catharina Berg, on 21 January 1853 at Odenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz; Marriage was recorded in the Reform Church Registry at Odenbach.

No. 1
Date: 21 Jan 1853

Jakob Bender, Born: 19 May 1828 at Adenbach
Father:
Mother: Anna Margaretha Bender
Philippina Venter, Born: 28 Oct 1831
Father: Johannes Venter
Mother: Katharina Berg.

 

Family

Philippina Venter b. 28 Oct 1831
Children
Last Edited9 Feb 2019

Katharina Bender

F, #3440, b. 5 November 1856
Father*Jakob Bender b. 19 May 1828
Mother*Philippina Venter b. 28 Oct 1831
Birth*5 November 1856 Katharina Bender was born on 5 November 1856 at Odenbach, Rheinland-Pfalz. 
 Katharina Bender was the daughter of Jakob Bender and Philippina Venter
Last Edited13 Jan 2019

Anna Margaretha Bendler

F, #1672, b. 26 February 1662
Father*Johannes Bendler
Mother*Anna Catharina (N.N.)
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Birth*26 February 1662 Anna Margaretha Bendler was born on 26 February 1662 at Auerbach, Hessen; Baptism was recorded in the Auerbach Lutheran Church Baptismal Register; Page: 6; Date: 26 Feb 1762; Child's Name: Anna Margaretha; Father: Hanß Bendel [sic]; Mother: Anna. 
 Anna Margaretha Bendler was the daughter of Johannes Bendler and Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Marriage*31 January 1682 Anna Margaretha Bendler married Nicolas Schwab, son of Nicolaus Schwab and Barbara (N.N.), on 31 January 1682 at Auerbach, Hessen; Marriage was recorded in the Auerbach Lutheran Church Marriage Register; Page: 285; Date: 31 Jan 1685; Groom: Nicolaus Schwab (Father: Nicolaus Schwab); Bride: Anna Margaretha Bendler (Father: Hans Bendler). 
Burial*July 1727 Anna Margaretha Bendler was buried in July 1727 at Auerbach, Hessen; Burial was recorded in the Auerbach Lutheran Church Burial Register; Page:409; Date: July 1727; Name: Anna Margaretha, age: 65 yrs., 4 mos., 2 wks; Husband: Nicol Schwab, deceased. 

Family

Nicolas Schwab b. c Apr 1653
Children
Last Edited2 Nov 2004

Barbara Bendler

F, #1680, b. 10 December 1669
Father*Johannes Bendler
Mother*Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Baptism*10 December 1669 Barbara Bendler was baptized on 10 December 1669 at Auerbach, Hessen; Baptism was recorded in the Auerbach Lutheran Church Baptism Register; Page: 21; Date: 10 Dec 1669; Child's Name: Barbara; Father: Hans Bendler; Mother: Anna Catharina. 
 Barbara Bendler was the daughter of Johannes Bendler and Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Last Edited2 Nov 2004

Johannes Bendler

M, #1673
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Marriage*before 1660 Johannes Bendler married Anna Catharina (N.N.) before 1660. 

Family

Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Children
Last Edited6 Nov 2003

Johannes Bendler

M, #1797, b. 30 August 1663
Father*Johannes Bendler
Mother*Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Baptism*30 August 1663 Johannes Bendler was baptized on 30 August 1663 at Auerbach, Hessen; Baptism was recorded in the Auerbach Lutheran Church Baptism Register; Page: 8; Date: 30 Aug 1663; Child's Name: Johannes: Father: Hanß Bendler; Mother: Anna. 
 Johannes Bendler was the son of Johannes Bendler and Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Last Edited2 Nov 2004

Peter Bendler

M, #1681, b. 13 December 1671
Father*Johannes Bendler
Mother*Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Baptism*13 December 1671 Peter Bendler was baptized on 13 December 1671 at Auerbach, Hessen; Baptism was recorded in the Auerbach Luth. Church Baptism Register; Page: 27; Date: 13 Dec 1671; Child's Name: Peter; Father: Hanß Bendler; Mother: Anna Catharina. 
 Peter Bendler was the son of Johannes Bendler and Anna Catharina (N.N.)
Last Edited2 Nov 2004